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Bob’s 2021 Picnic, Taxi Tests for the Electric Ultralight
Source: 2021 Q4 Beartracks, Jared Yates
Bob’s usual October picnic was well-attended by Bearhawk folks, if not Bearhawks. With ours being recently liquidated (in both the financial and thermodynamic sense), we knew we would be driving in. But even if we’d had a flying plane, the weather close to home would have made it a no-go. A local Stinson was the only plane to fly in.

Bob’s friend Cedric Jeanty came in from California to help install and test a motor and speed control system for Bob’s Ultralight project. Cedric helped source a new and more powerful motor. With the new motor and system in place, the fuselage was to a point of being ready for some taxi tests. Cedric made a lap up and down the runway (photo below), and Bob offered that I could also (photo below Cedric).


This was quite a thrill, because there are no brakes or tailwheel steering. The only steering comes from the force of the air over the rudder. While it’s plenty adequate, this takes some pilot thinking, because if you want to slow down and simultaneously steer, reducing thrust also reduces steering. This would be familiar to someone used to driving most personal watercraft. The winds were erratic and occasionally gusty, which added to the challenge. I was impressed with how the motor reacted to “throttle” input. Similar to a direct-drive outrunner radio-controlled plane, it’s instant and not lacking any torque. Run time will be limited at very high power settings, but with as light and low-drag as this airframe promises to be, it won’t be running at high power settings for long. This is going to be a neat
machine to fly. In the next photo, Bob, Cedric, and Mike Meador prepare for a full-power run to test the temperature of the motor and speed controller. This was impressive to see. The powerplant is quieter than a C65, but not by much. The prop makes a large contribution to the noise in both cases.
Other Bearhawk folks on hand included Bearhawk 4 -Place builder and owner Chuck Morris from Michigan, Bearhawk Five builder Matt Layland from Florida, Bearhawk LSA builders Stephen and Monica Murphey from South Carolina, Bearhawk LSA builder Chuck Calvi and his buddy Mac, and Bearhawk Five builder Jay Thomas from Huntsville, Alabama.
Bearhawk Patrol First Flight: Paul Johnston
Bearhawk Five on a Mission
Source: 2021 Q4 Beartracks, Virgil Irwin
My interest in the Bearhawk came from a need for a plane to serve in our ministry in West Africa. My wife and I formed MA Global Mission and we are partnered with a local ministry in West Africa. This local ministry is a church planting and discipleship organization that provides medical, water well, agricultural, radio, TV, education and many other services to some of the most forgotten people on earth all of which are used to serve others and open doors to share the Gospel. Due to the remote nature of many of the ministries and the lack of actual airports in country I knew that we would need an airplane that could handle rough conditions and be a multi-use aircraft. I spent a lot of time flying and looking at every model I could. I looked at Maule, Cessna 182, 206, 210, Helio courier, Murphy aircraft etc. and nothing could meet all the requirements I had.
We are operating in remote areas of west Africa with avgas usually unavailable and even turbine fuel is scarce. We also only have 4 paved airports and a handful of dirt strips in the entire country so off airport operations will be common. I had several requirements:
1. Must burn auto fuel
2. True four place/six when needed
3. 1200 miles range with four people
4. IFR capable
5. Short field and off airport capable.
6. Capable of carrying stretcher
7. 300hp minimum (we will always be hot and heavy in the desert)
8. 140mph cruise
9. Large cargo capable.
After looking at and flying many different certified and non-certified aircraft I came across the Bearhawk line. Mike Blue and Bill Anton were kind enough to let me get some time in their wonderful aircraft. Mike’s being highly modified and Bill’s relatively stock. After flying the Bearhawk I was blown away by the performance, flying characteristics and overall design. I knew that Bob had designed a great flying, capable, rugged aircraft. I called Mark Goldberg and told him our mission upon which he said to wait a few months for the new model to be announced.
When the specs for the model five were shared I was ecstatic. We placed our deposit for a model five kit and I got to planning. At the heart of this build will be a Lycoming 580 controlled by the EFII system 32. I will show more on this motor on my YouTube channel (Virgil Irwin) but it will make well over 300hp on auto fuel. Robert Paisley has been fantastic to work with and has created a quality product. Upon fuel system research I decided the best route was to run a 5 gallon header tank fed by the main tanks. I had a 5 gallon cylinder tank made and mounted it behind the rear bulkhead, running 1/2in fuel lines through the walls to the rear mounted header tank. This setup provides 16in of fuel depth at all attitudes and will have a fuel level sender tied to the Garmin system showing fuel levels in the tank. In order to meet the range requirements I placed the additional aux tanks in the wings. For even greater range I built a carbon fiber belly pod that will house a 40 gal fuel bladder when needed and be used for cargo the rest of the time. The pod is built so that the fuel and cargo will be on cg and a smaller compartment in front of the gear struts can be used to place weight forward of the CG (tool kit).
The airframe was modified in several ways to meet our needs. The belly pod was a major modification as it is hard mounted to the airframe and will need to be installed for flight as belly fabric was terminated much further back to provide more depth within the pod.
Carbon control covers were built to provide control cable protection and electrical routing under the floor. Honeycomb core carbon fiber/Kevlar floor boards were built to accommodate heavier objects (motorcycles drilling equipment etc.). This mod created extremely rigid floors while pulling 8 pounds from the floor and placing the rudder cables under the floor. Gull wing doors were created and require no modification to the lower portion of door unlike the 4 place in which the threshold must be raised. Carbon concepts 18-inch Hoerner tips were added to the wings with Whelen landing lights in each tip.
So far building has been going really well and we hope to be flying in the first quarter of next year. Our mission is unique and the Bearhawk will open doors for us that I honestly believe no other aircraft can open. If you would like to follow along with our mission our website is www.maglobalmission.com or text the word “mission” to (866)925-2706 to receive our video news letters by text. We partner with individuals, businesses and churches and would love to meet many of you with a passion for Bearhawks.
Bearhawk Report from Triple Tree 2021
Source: 2021 Q4 Beartracks, Monica Murphey
The Triple Tree Aerodrome (SC00), located near Woodruff, South Carolina, hosted their 14th annual fly-in September 20-26th, 2021. Thomas Patterson “Pat” Hartness bought the property in 1997 and began developing it into the beautiful venue that offers General Aviation and Radio Control events. Triple Tree’s 7,000 foot grass runway is immaculately maintained. The Triple Tree website states they had a new record of 1,349 total aircraft operations at this year’s event.
My husband Stephen and I began attending Triple Tree after we moved to South Carolina. Stephen has always been interested in buying or building a plane, and began to seriously look at plans after we found an old farmhouse on enough acreage to develop a short runway of our own. After looking at several short field options, it didn’t take long for him to decide building a Bearhawk was the best fit for us. One of our favorite parts of Triple Tree is meeting other Bearhawk enthusiasts.
This year, Jerry Cornwell, aka Stinger, was at Triple Tree with his LSA. He enjoys flying his Bearhawk “Lil’ Bear” with his grandson, but was flying solo this year. Mike Swain, who is building a Bearhawk 4-Place, flew in with his son Len in their Maule. We met two potential Bearhawk builders from the Greenville area. One is in the process of ordering a Model 5 kit and the other gentleman is in the exploration phase.
Triple Tree also offers a variety of workshops and seminars. Attendees receive tickets that are entered into a raffle. We attended a workshop hosted by Mr. Jim Wilson detailing his restoration of a Travel Air belonging to a family connection of Pancho Barnes. I have a history of never winning anything, so I did not have high expectations when we joined the others in the maintenance hangar as they called out the numbers of winners. I was chatting with another gentleman and didn’t even realize what I won when one of my tickets was called. I was thrilled to learn I had won two new tires for Stephen’s Bearhawk-to-be.
Stephen is excited, too.
The weather was perfect. A good time was surely had by all, and we hope to see more of you guys there next year.






Neville Bailey’s Bearhawk 4-Place First Flight in New Zealand
Source: 2021 Q4 Beartracks, Nev Bailey
I had been thinking about building an aircraft for many years and after deciding on a Bearhawk, I finally started building mine in August 2020. This coincided with moving with my family back to NZ after 20 years living in Asia. The 4-place Bearhawk seemed to cover what I was after, and I settled on an IO-540 engine, Hartzell Trailblazer prop and PMAG ignitions. Two Dynon HDX screens and the Dynon ACM electronic circuit breakers completed the cockpit setup. Very early on I elected to make two modifications. I was keen on gullwing doors, and also a skylight. These of course added extra work, but I’m happy with the outcome and glad I did both. The gull-wing doors make getting in and out reasonably easy. The build certainly provided its challenges – this was my first aircraft build and the learning curve was steep. Spray
painting was without doubt the hardest part for me, and I was quite glad when that was over. Doing the fabric covering was quite enjoyable and I had no shortage of help from some far more experienced builders. I had decided early on to find a mentor, and was lucky to meet a retired engineer who visited weekly. By the end of the build I had enlisted the help of several retired engineers, all keen to keep their hand in and only too happy to help out. I’m lucky that I could spend several hours a day in the workshop most days and progress was reasonably steady.
Several weeks ago I trucked the fuselage and wings to my hangar and began assembling them. With the end of build in sight, it was an enjoyable part of the build. Then came a week of checks – Avionics sign-off, Weight & Balance, Fuel Flow testing, 100 hour/Annual, and finally last Wednesday the CAA check. They all went well, and the NZ CAA issued my Certificate of Airworthiness to begin flight testing, and the personalized call-sign “Bearhawk Bravo”. I made the first flight the following day, just my local engineer present and I hadn’t told anyone else – that was the way I wanted it. Having already given it a lot of thought and preparation, I simply taxied out, ran the engine up, and departed. I had a permanent grin on my face for hours after landing!
I’m now 9 hours into flight testing. We’ve done one oil change, and the engine appears to be largely run in, with CHTs lower now, and oil consumption minimal. I’ve made numerous changes and tweaks, fine tuning the ailerons, flaps, pitch trim pushrods, added a rudder trim, tightened the trim cables, hoisted and adjusted the gear oleos, changed the instrumentation red-lines, increased the oil pressure – and it continues daily. After each adjustment, it flies just a bit better each time and at this stage I’ve already got an aircraft that is delightful to fly. I’m slowly getting some currency back myself and although early days at this stage, it is nice to be back in the air again. Hopefully by the time the 40 hour testing program is complete, I’ll be current enough to find a couple of strips nearby and start practicing. I also plan to join the local back country flying group and learn a few things from them. There’s a gathering of NZ Bearhawks planned in March next year and I’ve already put my name down for a few other fly-ins. So far I’m enjoying the flying every bit as much as I thought would, and the whole project has been a very rewarding experience.
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Engine Cooling Follow-Up
In the last issue I wrote about cooling, especially based on the shape of the lower cowl. I decided to install a fixed lip at the cowl outlet, and in the process also enlarge the opening by an inch and a half. I had not wanted to make the opening any larger over concerns about how thin the connection area was between the two lower cowl halves, but the new lip served as a doubler so I enlarged the opening. Here are the before and after:






I had hoped to download the EMS recorded data so that I could be more quantitative, but unfortunately it was lost in the fire. Generally, I can say it was a vast improvement. Before, a takeoff with a warm engine would have the CHTs over 400 in the first 1500-2000 feet, climbing at 90 knots. With the new cowl lip, Mike and I were able to climb with our Oshkosh load at 70 knots and the temps started to reach 400 climbing through 6000 feet. At a less steep and more normal climb angle, temps were never a concern, which was the intended design goal. While at Oskhosh, I took photos of several other airplanes for comparison. There is a lot of variety. Bobby Stokes enlarged the intake openings, added the Carbon Cub style louvers, and lower cowl flaps (O-540):


Mark Scott uses more typical louvers with his O-540:





Bill Anton had the largest lower cowl opening of the Oshkosh samples, though I believe he also has the most horsepower and thus BTUs to shed. I also appreciate how he riveted the lip on the top (behind the yellow) of the lower cowl.

The installation is visually appealing. None of this analysis is conclusive enough to say “do it this way,” but hopefully seeing some of the variety will help narrow down the norms of lower cowl configurations.
Spring Bias Rudder Trim
Source: 2021 Q3 Beartracks, Mark Richardson
I am currently scratch building a 4 place A model Bearhawk and I am always looking for both cool ideas and “things to avoid” during my build and am trying to incorporate those that will prove to be handy but not compromise the engineering of the design nor add significant weight. One idea came from my Maule M5-235C that I am flying until the Bearhawk is done.
I have found the rudder trim in my Maule (such as it is) to be really useful, especially on long climbs. However, depending upon speed I have had to fiddle with the setting to get things where I’m actually flying straight. If you aren’t familiar with the Maule rudder trim, it is essentially a handle you tug on that just pulls on your right rudder pedal with a spring. Dead simple. Also, right rudder trim only.
Since I am putting an electric elevator trim in my 4 place (actually, a G3X system with Autopilot and Yaw Damper), I had the elevator trim wheel left over. Also, since I really don’t want to have an ugly rudder trim tab sticking out the back of the airplane, nor do I want to be trimmed for only one speed (unless I have built everything perfectly straight…not likely since this is a scratch build) I thought I would try and design and build a rudder trim system that is completely adjustable.
The rudder pedals on the Bearhawk require return springs so they don’t fall over onto the floor when your feet aren’t on them so I figured I would use those springs as part of the rudder trim (like the Maule, but for both directions). The elevator trim wheel has a sprocket and comes with a chain, so if I could manage to mount the wheel in an unobtrusive place but still have easy access to it, that would be ideal.

The photo above you can see where I just welded on an .063 4130 tab directly underneath the throttle quadrant (which is a welded plate so that I can remove the panel without removing the throttle/pitch/mixture). The friction of the wheel will be set by a magical combination of washers, castle nut position, and just the right amount of tongue sticking out as I tighten the whole thing up and install a cotter pin.

This is the view from the panel side. Very easy to access and not too unsightly.
The trim wheel is attached to the rudder pedals through the rudder return springs, which in turn are connected through some 1/16” galvanized cable, pulleys, and shackles. There are two 1.75” pulleys for each side and they are oriented to run the 1/16” cable down the tube to a point just forward of the rudder pedal return spring arms.



This picture above shows the connection to the rudder pedals themselves. This was the biggest issue when I was designing how the system would work. Originally, I had the pulley farther down the tube and the shackle was on the return spring arm itself. The problem was that the thimble and swage now interfered with the pulley. A friend suggested an offset connection of some kind, so I made the 4130 plates you see here and used a long bolt with the shackle to make the connection.
The system seems to work quite well but I will only know for sure once the aircraft is flying … which be Tuesday … I’m just not which WHICH Tuesday…
How-Not-To: Burn Down the Hangar
Source: 2021 Q3 Beartracks, Jared Yates
Beartracks is largely a “how-to” publication, though I’ve enjoyed providing a few “how-not-to” tidbits over the years, usually in rather light-hearted cases with minimal impact. I think it’s important to share mistakes as much as triumphs, if we are to promote safety and success. This time I’ll share one that is far more consequential and unfortunately also much less educational, at least with regard to prevention.
I was in a hotel on a work trip, as I often am, when I got a call from the owner of our local small airport where we rent our hangar spot. He was at the beach that weekend, taking a break from his non-stop jobs at his grading business and at the local fire department. His friends at the fire department said they were responding to a call at his place, to give him a heads up and see if he was burning brush piles or something. He wasn’t, so he started calling the tenants and pretty soon we got word that our hangar was on fire. Relatives had been through the airport to check on things around 3:00pm and everything looked normal. Sometime around 5:00pm the neighbors heard things and saw the smoke, and called it in. By 5:30 the fire was out, and you can see what was left.
I was scheduled to be home around 24 hours later, and seeing that there wasn’t much for me to be there to secure or protect, I completed the work trip and arrived at home the next afternoon. I had lots of questions, as I’m sure you do. Most pressing, was there anything to try and save? Was there any indication about what might have started the fire? The county has investigators who were on the scene right after the fire, and they would eventually report the cause as undetermined. I don’t think there was very much left for them to investigate. Before arriving I wondered if any of the small batteries, like those for the electric drill or flashlights might have been to blame. Oddly, all of those things were in a part of the building that didn’t seem to get very hot. In the days after the fire, when restoring electrical power to the other hangars on the same service, we found that the breaker was damaged. The power company’s meter records usage in 30-minute increments, and there was a spike in usage on the afternoon of the fire, but we don’t have any way to know if that was a cause or an effect. The meter usually has such small demand that even the relatively large increase was still a small amount of total kilowatt hours, so I doubt that’s a solid indication of a problem. All of these things may have been effects rather than causes. There’s not a smoking gun that we can point to, or a simple moral to the story of “don’t do this or your hangar will burn down”. Some things that might have mitigated the impacts of the fire would include having an all-metal building and not one with a wooden structure. Same with tool storage and work benches. Thankfully I didn’t have any welding gasses in the hangar or any fuel in our storage containers. I don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation to have a hangar/workshop with nothing plugged in, and no sources of energy.
As for trying to save anything, there were a few mementos worth digging for. One was a stubby 7/16” wrench that I carried in the airplane’s travel toolbag. It was part of a high-end SK stubby wrench set that I had received as a gift back in college from a mechanic I worked for. In the early days of flying the Bearhawk, I had lost it, and then replaced it with a new wrench. During a subsequent condition inspection, I found the original 7/16 rattling around in the wing, evidence of a cardinal sin of aviation maintenance. When the airplane insurance adjuster came to visit the site, he asked about the airplane’s data plate. I hadn’t thought to look for it, but after his asking we poked around and eventually found it, so I saved that. One of the strangest things was how in one sense, there was nothing there. But in another sense, everything was there. At least everything that hadn’t combusted. My wooden toolbox was a pile of charcoal, but excavation yielded the remains of most of the steel tools, charred and absent their necessary heat treatment. The wooden pedal plane Bearhawks we had made for the girls were gone, but their steel parts like the pedal crank and steering mechanism were left behind right where they dropped. Nearly everything had left some evidence of itself and nearly none of it was of any use but recycling.
The airplane structure was an interesting study. The area around the boot cowl experienced some very high temperatures, probably because of the fuel on board. When a steel truss from the roof fell down onto the fuselage, the strongest tubes in the airplane were hot enough to bend like spaghetti. Copper wires draped over the tube that passes under the instrument panel, along with the engine control cables. Anything aluminum in this area was completely gone. Some of the thickest parts of the wing structure, such as the spar at the wing strut, were still present but badly deformed. There were puddles of aluminum on the ground where the wings had been. The steel structures from the wing were on the ground, and control cables still connected back to the stick. Interestingly, some portion of the paint on the fuselage survived the heat. Fiberglass parts like the nosebowl and wingtips were reduced to piles of what looked like virgin fiberglass cloth. The binding plastics were burned away but the glass fibers persisted. I removed the engine and took it to Bob, and we’re waiting to hear back if any of the internal steel engine parts are serviceable.
The airplane was insured fairly well. Not for enough to build another one at today’s prices, and not for as much as I would have liked to have sold it for, but at least something to offset the loss. In deciding on a hull value I had considered several possible loss scenarios, especially an off-airport landing or wind damage while tied down away from home, but I had not considered losing the plane and everything in it. Having that perspective, I might have chosen a little higher hull number. The good news was that the airplane insurance folks were very good, and they got us a settlement quickly. The structure itself was not insured, though it was fairly modest. The tools and contents other than the airplane appear to be covered as personal property under our homeowner’s insurance. I took lots of pictures of the aftermath to help remind myself of everything that was out there, and made a fairly exhaustive list of around 200 items. Several things aren’t on the list because there’s no way to assign a value or replace them, like my collection of scrap lead, or half a sheet of leftover Makrolon. So far it has been a month and I don’t think we’re very far along in the process on that claim, though thankfully we aren’t depending on that settlement for important day-to-day needs. I can only imagine how bad it must be to go through this process with one’s living space instead of one’s recreational space. We’ll have to provide another follow-up once we know how the claim turns out.
This was the same hangar that we used to build the airplane, and though I stopped logging the time spent there after the first flight, I had over 2000 hours up until that point. Since then there have been 7 condition inspections, a panel re-do, and countless other projects big and small. It was a special place full of special things and we hate to see it gone. There’s a fellow named Ron from up the road, and he would drive by the hangar around dusk. He’s a hunter, and would be scouting out of season and hunting during the season. Responsible hunters are good folks to have around, they pay close attention to the details. Over the years I had gotten to know Ron pretty well, based on our mutual hours on the property and our mutual interest in each other’s pursuits. I had thought maybe I wouldn’t take the kids out to the site after the fire, worried about all of the sharp edges and hazards. But I realized they had earned the privilege, having entertained themselves at the hangar so many times while I was out there working on things. A few days after the fire the whole family was out there with me. We had several good discussions and lessons as we poked around in the charcoal and found things, speculating what they used to be, and adding to the list. The afternoon was winding down and we were just about to pull out when I saw Ron drive up. I told Tabitha I needed to hop out and talk to Ron, so she left with the girls to go procure some supper, and come back to get me later.
I’m glad I waited, because Ron had some pretty insightful things to say. He said, “you know, lots of folks don’t know what it takes to build a hangar and airplane like that, but I do, because I watched you do it over all of those years.” He was right. Our interactions along each step of the way had given him good insight about the scope of building these projects. We talked for a little while, and it was time for him to head out. We said our goodbyes and I walked back over to poke around. Passing by on the road, he called out from his truck, “Hey, if it wasn’t for that pile of burnt metal over there, I’d have never met you!” This was something that I didn’t realize that I knew, but he was exactly right. The airplane and hangar were special but some of their best value came from the relationships that we formed over the years. Fellow builders and Bearhawk prospects who came to visit, friends and relatives that went for rides, more Young Eagles than I’ve counted, and a few transition training folks. There were so many people that we wouldn’t have met if it wasn’t for that burned pile of metal.
So what’s the next step? We aren’t in a rush to buy a replacement airplane, in part because we can’t just buy one unless one comes along for sale. Until we have a replacement hangar, there’s not a place to start another build project, and I’m not sure we are in a stage of life with enough free time to build another, even though I suspect I could do it in half the time of the last one. With our daughters being 7 and 9, there is a lot of life to be living in the time it would take to build another airplane. So for now, we are going to focus on constructing a new hangar, and wait to see what comes along in the way of a flying Bearhawk or a repairable project. Continue reading
Visiting Mark Goldberg’s Ranch and Flying the Model Five
Source: 2021 Q3 Beartracks, Pat Fagan
I recently found myself in need of an adventure and finally decided to take Mark Goldberg up on an offer he had been making me for years. He had offered me the opportunity to fly all of his Bearhawk airplanes and reminded me that Avipro now has 5 Bearhawk models. I contacted my traveling companions Scott and Kevin then we patiently waited through the month of March for a weather window. We finally departed in early April and made a two day trip to Mark’s ranch. Let me say first and foremost that Mark and Cathy were absolutely outstanding hosts. They saw to our every need, provided us with scrumptious meals and provided first class accommodations. Let me also say, however, that I was disappointed to discover that of the 5 models, Mark only had 3 in his hangar. His Patrol was awaiting a ferry flight home from Alaska and there weren’t any Companion models even flying yet. The two aircraft I most wanted to fly were the Patrol and the LSA, but the Patrol was unavailable and the wind never cooperated to allow us to fly the LSA. Still, Mark did have the Bearhawk 5 and he was extremely gracious in allowing us to fly it. And I do mean gracious, or should I say courageous, as so few have seen it, including Bob, and even fewer have flown it. I wish I could provide a worthwhile pilot report, but that sort of technical assessment is far beyond my abilities. As any of you who have met me at fly-ins can attest, my usual response to performance questions is “I don’t know”. I know how mine flies and how to get the performance I want out of it, but can’t seem to translate that any worthwhile performance numbers. So, let me give you my impressions. The plane is definitely bigger. Settling into the left seat it felt much roomier but I can’t say by how much as I didn’t have a front seat passenger. The visibility on the ground was outstanding, both over and beside the nose. The seat configuration has been changed which provided that improvement. So to was the configuration of the flap handle which I absolutely loved. No more groping at the floor to pull on the first notch or straining to pull on the last. If there was one change that I could incorporate into my plane that would be it. I am very familiar with my Bearhawk’s ability to leap off the ground, and yet I was surprised at how quickly the 5 leapt into the air. The engine / propeller combination they chose makes it a monster. The 5 is equipped with a multi function instrument while I am still a steam gauge kind of guy so I initially had trouble finding needed information, such as airspeed. As I rocketed skyward my impression was “this thing is fast”. I fly my plane in cruise at 20 squared, primarily to give me a fuel flow I can live with, so I don’t fly fast. I can’t attest to what the 5 can do as I never gave it its head but rather reigned it in to what felt more comfortable to me. I did several maneuvers at various flap and power settings and found it to be solid and predictable in all regimes. Nothing notable to report here. I did notice a difference in approach to landing though. The 5 has the new wing while mine has the original. My plane falls out of the sky when the power is pulled off so I set up my approaches expecting the same thing. I did three landings and found it necessary to slip every one in to lose altitude. Not a problem, just an adjustment. The 5 was a joy to fly and I think Bob and Mark have another winner in their stable. I am grateful to Mark for entrusting his new mount to me, but I still want to get my hands on a Patrol.













